The Cainites, or Cainians were a Gnostic and Antinomian sect who were known to venerate . for doubting the truth of Irenaeus’ account, though accusations of immorality urged against heretics should always be received with caution. This is a beautiful book, I cannot stress that enough. Cainite Heresy is one of the best books that White Wolf have ever published. This book is paced full of. Thankfully, Cainite Heresy is more the latter than the former. This book is a good, useful exploration of how vampire imagery can infiltrate (and sometimes.

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We have no ground to suppose that the Cainites held such a view, but they seem to have professed the belief that this fullness of experience was essential to salvation.

Imperial Rome decided that the best way to deal with this chaos was to co-opt it, rather than continue trying to crush it. There was a diversity of beliefs back then amongst Cainites, but there was still strong representation of mostly non-heretical Christians amongst them.

Originally posted by Demon Cat View Post. Get Some Cards for Your Spokes: This would also be combined with the whole illfeeling throughout the middle ages towards the church and its huge amount of wealth, influence, power and corruption that would occasionally flare up. They had roughly a thousand good years to use and abuse it, as they have every other strong social institution, before it turned violently against them.

There is no doubt that they applauded the action of Judas in the betrayal, but our authorities differ as to the motive which prompted him.

If, hwresy, this could all be crowded into a single lifetime, then the transmigration became unnecessary. Available exclusively through TabletopGaming. Gnosticism Early Gnostic sects. Actually the CH issue got me wondering what kind of forces were behind the rise of Christianity.


Free exclusively through TabletopGaming. Call of Cthulhu They claimed fellowship with EsauKorahthe men of Sodomand all such people, and regarded themselves as on that account persecuted by the Creator. One Page Adventures 4.


Perfect knowledge consisted in going without a tremor into such actions as it is not lawful even to name. Heresu The Cainite Heresy. Having read Dark Ages core book and some of the Novels, I was under the impression that Cainite Heresy was portrayed as dangerous cqinite, generally detrimental to the vampire cause. Mead Fragments of a Faith Forgotten, p. To some it would seem a duty to crush the flesh beneath the spirit by the severest austerity, but the premise might lead to a libertine as well as to an ascetic conclusion.

The Church wasn’t the enemy of Cainites at first. We have no substantial justification for doubting the truth of Irenaeus’ account, though accusations of immorality urged against heretics should always be received with caution.

Part of a series on Gnosticism. This is critical because they feel that the Antedeluvians repeating that exact same hubris will prompt Caine to return and save them from their elders before they are devoured. Not so much “news” as a “retrospective”.

Originally Posted by Enevhar Aldarion. They regarded Judas the traitor as having full cognizance of caniite truth.

This page was last edited on 24 Octoberat The view that Judas through his more perfect Gnosis penetrated the wish of Jesus more successfully than the others, and accomplished it by bringing him to the Cross through which he effected redemption, is only one of them.

World of Darkness That’s not a good image. Nevertheless, he was the weaker power, who could do them no permanent harm, for Sophia, the Heavenly Wisdom, drew back to herself those elements in their nature which they had derived from her.


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They were mentioned by Tertullian and Irenaeus as existing in the eastern Roman Empire during the 2nd century. Remember also that for a lot of individuals being a Cainite Bishop or Priest in the heresy offers a lot of power within pro-Heresy areas but concequently makes you enemies like Anatole.

Originally Posted by Morrus. Enevhar Aldarion – Saturday, 12th August, Philaster, on the other hand, assigns the action of Judas to his knowledge that Christ intended to destroy the truth—a purpose which he frustrated by the betrayal.

Breaking Down the Prism of Overlight: From the human-christian perspective CH is certainly a most blasphemous heresy, but why would most vampires view it as such? It was necessary to pass through all experiences, and hence the soul had to pass from body to body till the whole range of experience had been traversed.

The Cainites possessed a work entitled The Gospel of Judas, and Irenaeus says that he had himself collected writings of theirs, where they advocated that the work of Hystera should be dissolved.

I’ll stop historygasming now.

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He tells us that the Cainites regarded Cain as derived from the higher principle. Articles needing additional references from November All articles needing additional references Source attribution. Tired of all the fantasy role-playing games with a grim and dark palette?

This would probably piss off the more Christian vampires.